The Pr Diaries Messy Motown Re Re Re Re


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Even though Aretha Franklin was never officially on Motown, she always gets mistaken for a Motown artist. Probably due to the fact that Berry Gordy pursued her heavy when she was young. Berry wanted to not only sign her but to ” Lay the wood” to her as they used to say.    Aretha signed with RCA records.  For years Berry Gordy tried to sign her he knew she was going to be an ” all-time”

Had numerous rumored affairs with Men on the Motown label ( was said to be fuckin both David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks

Ended up having a long affair with her mentor Sam Cooke. *Her mother, Barbara, abandoned the family when she was 6, then died a few years later leaving Aretha, her sister’s Carolyn and Erma, and brothers Cecil and Vaughan to be raised by their bible-thumping father, a prominent preacher Rev. Clarence Le Vaughan Franklin.

Was a victim of domestic violence, abuse, and Incest.  Rev. C.L. Franklin ( her father) fornicated with gospel singer Clara Ward for many years and was good friends with Rev. James Cleveland(a closeted gay pedophile preacher who molested dozen of his young male church members and infected many with AIDS before he died with the disease himself in 1991).  We will have that sugar as well later down the line when we cover ” The truth behind the gospel music world”

Her father used to throw orgies in the church basement some girl all girl some all men and some both  Ray Charles used to comment on it. 

She fabricated stories about mystery lovers and released those stories to the press just to keep her name in print.( such a pr thing to do 🙂 I got this sugar directly from her old publicist  RIPBarbara Shelley)

And perhaps most complicatedly of all, she came from a home where her father was a promiscuous gospel preacher whose church was a front for orgies which Ray Charles was to describe as a ‘sex circus’.

So questionable was his behavior that when Franklin became pregnant at the age of just 12 – her sexuality apparently awakened by the scene her father promoted – that rumors swirled around Detroit that the preacher was the father to her child.

Aretha has had bitter feuds with  Barbara Streisand, Diana Ross, and Patti Labelle. Aretha was very jealous of those 3   She also never liked Tina Turner and she allegedly called  Giselle a “clueless Bitch” when she referred to ” Tina Turner as the queen

In 2003, her son, Edward was under investigation for setting fire to one of her mansions in Bloomfield Township, MI when police discovered him smelling of smoke and found traces of flame accelerant on his clothing close the scene of the crime. The arson charges were later dropped due to lack of evidence and because Aretha, her friend/employee/former fire chief, and Edward’s lover George West wouldn’t cooperate with the police and prosecutors.

It is a well-known rumor that Edward is strung out on drugs and alcohol, openly gay and infected with AIDS and has resented his mother for years because he was molested by her ex-husband, actor Glynn Turman when he was younger. ( A different world Glyn Turman  who also used to beat the shit out of her)

When I asked Barbara and 2 more relatives about Aretha they said ” nympho Liar that lived an unhealthy life of booze. sex and fried chicken” They also stated that out of everyone  maybe except Patti  she was the most talented vocalist”

We have more coming up   when we do the truth about the 10 most famous female vocalist ever

Special thanks to my girl who posted 3 of these nuggets on Lipstick Alley and Barbara confirmed all 3 back when I spoke to her  when I saw it on LA a couple of years later so I know it’s pretty solid info


Thank you to Jayde Jennis for the research on the other stuff



64 thoughts on “The Pr Diaries Messy Motown Re Re Re Re”

  1. My uncle was a member in Clara Wards choir and some what raised by her mom Gertrude ( however you spell it ) he told many stories of Aretha and her father and Clara ! My uncle was a sick twisted perv so I believe everything about this ! & he had a lot of evidence of things but he burned his house down when kids grew up and started talking about what he’d done to them ! The gospel world is sick

  2. OMG 😳 dude from different world is gay or BI and her child might be by her daddy Im all kinds of F’d up in the head its sum sick mofos out here damn

  3. Now you know you have rocked my world when you were able to bring “A Different World” 😫😂
    I never knew any of this stuff. I have heard she was known for boy toys and will/would never admit to another singer being better than her. But Berry Gordy, Ray Charles, Barbara Streisand, Clara Ward, and Glynn Turnman… Girl I never knew!

  4. Oh no Glynn Turner?!?!… As for the church and her father doing that to her..there is some sick people out here.

    The gospel world seem to be more distrurbing, the more I hear about it.

  5. This would good sugar! But I’m ready to hear about the gospel world, I’ve always suspected but never could piece together anything besides Kirk Franklin’s greased lips 😂

      1. You should read the biography of Aretha Franklin “Respect” it is no holds bar. The writer leaves no stone unturned. It is 🔥

  6. If I remember correctly Patti and her never had a feud but people tend to pit them against each other because of their vocal talent. This was good sugar🤣

  7. Oooooh ssshheeeiitttt!!!!! These gospel folks, always knew there was something fishy (literally)looool. G, you dropped soo much tea in this story, gguurrrlll, let me tell you. Continue, you will get the RESPECT you deserve in due time. Much love coming all the way from London. UK

  8. Lort! I didn’t know the preacher got a 12 year pregnant while he was married to Aretha’s mom and the little girl had the baby!

      1. The 12 year old was Aretha! Her father is rumored to be the father of a couple of her kids. I am from Detroit so this tea has been around for years. I believe it’s all true!!! Her father was a sick, perverted, disgusting human being!!! SMH

    1. I thought it was from another girl from the church? I had to Google because I wasn’t too familiar about Aretha’s dad. I need to ask my Godpops. He had a couple of gospel concerts he sang at and he probably know some stuff. He is part of The Sonoco Men Club. They go around singing with these groups.

  9. 🗣BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII…you will not give us that ☕️like that..the entire time reading my mouth was wide open or had my hand over my mouth reading with my 👀opened wide..😱G you guys are something else. This that good sugar..that ole skool sugar. 💯

  10. I held my breathe reading this post. Wow! I remember my late auntie tiny on the phone saying Aretha divorced Glynn bc she caught him in bed with another man. I was outside the room listening. I was like whatttttt!??!! Then and now. Lol. Keep it coming. Not only tea but tea with liquor. Not just receipts but paid time stamped invoices. Holla!!!

  11. OOOOOO!!! THIS!! OMG!! This is some crazy ish… …and I can’t wait to see the gospel tea. Some of these artists act like their untouchable in that world… FOH.. The business is the business…. Shiiiiii….

  12. James Cleveland molested Billy Preston. BP was considered the 5th Beetle. JC’s estate paid out a lot of hush money.

  13. The most talented people have the most personal struggles . How sick ! Some people get the shitty end of the stick way to early . Amazingly talented though but damn

  14. Hollywood is just sick, is just a world built around sex, pedophilia, soul selling and money power crazed ppl whose willing to do whatever to be and stay relevant… Sickening to the stomach 😱😷 I was wondering was you gonna talk about the gospel world cause I’m quite sure their just as demonic trying to use Jesus as a cover up smh🤔

  15. My grandmother and aunt was part of the gospel scene, HEAVY! My grandmother sang with the ward sisters and my aunt was an evangelist who knew mr. Cleveland and a few others. I always had an uneasy feeling about the whole gospel scene, can’t wait to hear the BTS stories.

    1. Germona, you are so right! Let me tell you this! I remember when my aunt was pregnant with my cousin. She was working for Days Inn at the time. Dottie Peoples came to my hometown and did a show along with some more gospel singers at The Center Theater. Well, while Mrs. Dottie was at the theater doing a rehearsal and sound check, my aunt ended having her room to clean. My aunt said that Mrs. Dottie was the nastiest woman she had ever seen!! Drawls on the bathroom floor! Bras and pantyhoses on the dresser! I was too through!!!! Just nasty!!

  16. So…… Where’s her kids????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    They was all before my time and my mama time…. I think lol well a Lil lol my mom is a 60s baby so….. Any who I know who these ppl are tho… Lol

  17. This is the whole truth and nothing but the truth, (glynn turman, from a different world) was known to be a flaming *f-word) and beat her and beat her son while also molesting him. Also to confirm her having her fathers chikd is also true. G got these facts out the attic, but people are so green when it comes to “celebs”

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